Son of Social Security

Linda Brady Traynham October 14, 2010 12

Just when you thought it was safe to relax for a few weeks, Congress betrays us by not taking the whole month off to stump for reelection.  Some of the usual culprits, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee and his pals, snuck back into town last Thursday (10/7/10) and held hearings on the infamous matter of confiscating every IRA left intact by those who have not chosen to pay taxes and penalties and whisk what is left of our money to safety.

Just this once–we told you so!  Articles on the GRA (Guaranteed Retirement Account) have long been met with a great deal of scepticism, “Oh, they would never do that!  Take my IRA and confiscate your 401(k) and force us into a government run program?  You’ve got to be wrong.”

One good Ponzi scheme deserves another, so here are the basics:

1.  Your real, true, honest-to-goodness private savings plan for your old age will be converted to a “Government Retirement Account” backed by the full faith and credit of their United States of America.

2.  Upon your death, anything left in the fund cannot be left to your heirs but reverts to the government.  A reasonable supposition is that rather than requiring percentages to be withdrawn at specific ages, as private plans do now, the GRA will specify how much you will be allowed to remove.

3.  An additional 5% mandatory payroll tax will force all workers to start a “retirement” plan whether they have one or not at present.  “But…but…but…they’ve already hit us with the 3.8% for Obamacare, have not renewed the Bush Tax Cuts (meaning income tax is going to shoot up and Cap Gains increase by 50%) and said the putative value of our health care plans will be treated as taxable income,” the naive may protest.

Yes?  And your question was?  Oh, you wanted to know if there is any limit on how many new ways you can be taxed.  None.  They’re still mulling over the VAT at 27%, which will slaughter those currently paying 25% or less to the IRS, and I’m sure a very large increase in welfare will be supplied to compensate for this.  You get to pay for that, too, if only through the declining dollar and inflation.  Don’t forget Cap and Trade is still on the agenda to run up your electric bill a government-estimated $3,000/year.  Hey, it’s only money, people, and it’s for the planet.  They say that with a straight face.  I can’t.

4.  This will be in addition to the nearly 15% of your income already sequestered through FDR’s tax.  (We hold that your employer would pay you the “matching ‘contribution’” if he weren’t obliged to give it to the feds.)

5.  Your “investments” will be held in–well, what do you think?  U. S. Treasury Bonds, of course..  Don’t worry, your balance will go up fast at a quarter of a per cent. in interest.

6.  Depending upon when/how estimated the sums involved in IRA alone are between 7.5 Tr and 14.5 Tr.  No, they aren’t going to pay off/down the national debt with it, they’re going to throw the money in the general fund and spend it.  The point is to take it away from you, not to do anything useful.

7. Karl Denninger suggests that this outrage is “likely to be snuck into the next mega-bailout bank bill (when they start collapsing due to the foreclosure mess), and like before, there will be nothing the American people can do to stop it.”

8.  There is ample time to shove this monstrosity through between now and the end of January, and the chances of overturning it and ObamaCare  are iffy even with the best possible election results;  what’s it take to overturn a presidential veto, two-thirds?   Majorities may be do-able if we all go vote anti-incumbent, but not two-thirds.

9.  Theresa Guilarducci, author of this bare-faced grab for your money, obviously believes that you aren’t competent to plan your own future, you know, and it isn’t “fair” that some of you will have better pensions than others.  Not including current and former members of Congress, union and government employees, and the Bonus Boys, of course.  Oh…did I ever point out that one reason Banksters get multi-million dollar bonuses in cash or stock is to avoid the ruling that they can’t be paid over a million dollars a year?  THAT one really socks the rich, huh?  Not at all; the bonuses aren’t salary.  Duh.  Here’s a nice quote:  the purpose of the legislation is “to seize private 401(k) plans to more “fairly” distribute taxpayer-funded pensions to everyone.”  That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy…because we don’t have any money available to be confiscated.  We already took our beatings years ago, and a very good thing.  I would have been forced to make withdrawals this year and there wouldn’t have been nearly as much left.

An excellent idea would be to find out what it will cost in taxes and penalties to ransom what you’ve got socked away.  A skinny bird in the hand will always be better than government smiles and lies.

Oh, my stars and garters!  I read somewhere today that Medicare estimates it spends $11,000 per annum on people in my age bracket.  Let’s see, now, if they show that as the “worth” of the plan, and I get a massive $2112/mo from SS, that’s all of $25,344/year, add the “value” of Medicare, and my income is now $36,344.  Most of it taxable.  There goes the Fancy Feast, Grandma will be down to Little Friskies.  The very sad part is that IS pretty much top of the heap, but we can remain tranquil because because the Baby Boomer crowd and we old folks have been warned that at some point “means testing” will be required.  First, no COLA for three years minimum, then declare Medicare is “income,” any questions who gets thrown off the sleigh given the choice of lawyers, unions, government employees, multinationals, and politicians.  It was always in the cards that way because most of us vote more conservatively and we don’t contribute to PACs.

Rich regards,

Linda Brady Traynham

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  • Jeff Schwartz

    federalreserve.govI’ve been keeping an eye on the GRA… and have a worry.

    When the debate to pass GRA hits CSPAN, people who think it’ll pass are going to flush their 401k/IRA. Take the tax hit, at least you get something.

    Let’s say half the people with such accounts do so – total liquidate, and take the cash. Let’s say there’s $10Tr in the accounts. $5Tr liquidate means $4Tr in to the economy, and $1Tr into the gov’ts coffers. (I think it’s 20% withholding on those)

    Now, a quick Trillion influx in a month would make Obama happy, and such could happen _without_ GRA passing. They just have to get it close enough to make people panic.

    Wikipedia seems to think the total value of all US stocks is around $50Tr. Selling $5Tr in the course of a week or two is going to be enough to change the market, I would think. Is selling 10% of the market enough to make a 10% drop in prices? Would a 10% drop in the Dow in a week be enough to cause a panic and make another Flash Crash?

    How many banks are capitalized on stocks in the Big Names – those same blue chips that people keep in their IRAs and thus would be selling? Is that enough to require another Fed bailout of the banks?

    Pushing $4Tr into bank accounts…. Check out http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/hist/h6hist1.txt
    August 2010 M1 is only $1.7 Trillion.

    If people decide to take it out as cash and stuff it under the bed…. then there’s not enough money in the whole country to do it. $4Tr is more than twice M1. They’ll have no choice but to deposit the check in their bank and leave it there while they go buy things like gold and silver.

    Is the news reporting that banks _can not_ hand you cash for the amount you want to withdrawl going to be enough to start a bank run?

    We’re talking about a 50% increase in M2 in a week or two’s time. Is this move of money to bank accounts enough to prevent another bailout?

    Does a 50% increase in M2 automatically make a 50% inflation spike?
    If people are using their bank debit cards to buy ‘stores of value’ because there’s literally not enough cash to go around, I’d think it would.

    Again, note that this could play out even if GRA doesn’t pass. It just has to get enough publicity and _look like_ it will pass long enough to scare people into selling.

  • Jeff Schwartz

    Why does it copy part of my link to the start of the post?

    (sigh)

    http://why.oh.why

  • PeterPansDad

    Good golly, Jeff. Here I was enjoying Linda’s nice article about being robbed blind by politicians and you had to go and put rubber on the road. The wife and I probably have tens of dollars left in IRAs. Dozens even. But the thought of a flash crash of the stock market and the sudden emergence of bubbles as people look for something to do with a flush of cash (probably used to speculate in the market privately after the crash) leaves me at a loss.

    Exciting times. Terrifying, but exciting.

    (…goes off looking for something real to buy at a pre-inflated price after emptying piggy bank and car ash tray)

  • Steve Foste

    It is a delima. It’ll cost me 40 percent or more to get out because it would move me to a higher tax bracket. For us woking stiffs, that’s getting stiffed pretty hard. It’s called getting road and put away wet.

    Maybe I should take the hit and play Linda’s form of the lotto.

  • Keith

    One has to ask, do you think that this administration would plan something like this or do you think this is something that those in power could not see happening while they think up these schemes? I am so tired of having to fight off the government everytime I want to do something different with my business. Just the other day we were setting prices on some new product and it sucked having to account for taxes now and possible taxes within the next year (meaning GUESS because the rules have yet to be written) and where the selling price had to be versus what we had in it. All we want to do is make a profit (Obama has no clue what that is) but so many people are scrapping for work that we just set prices to get by so we can sell some product.
    And then to hear something like this that the government wants to take away anything you have saved over the years (and yes Peter, we have done the same, taking out our retirement to survive this administration).
    Is this Russia and no one told me the name had changed?
    Keep up the good fight!

  • http://www.thetexasring.com Linda Brady Traynham

    Jeff…it does it because the sky is blue, birds sing, and scorpions sting. It is the nature of the beast. I don’t know why it pulls out the links like that and wouldn’t mind if it at least skipped a space frst. On the other hand, you’ve never known this system to fail to post, unlike some we know! I’ll ask Pablo if he can fix it for us.

    Regards,

    Linda

  • http://www.thetexasring.com Linda Brady Traynham

    Dear Steve:

    Wow. I’m not sure 40% is a dilemma but it’s sure a disaster. When I did it I was claiming only SS as income and my CPA deducted Andrew’s school expenses, which helped a lot since he more than offset. The bad part is I was spending capital.

    The problem is, do the rules ALLOW you to direct your own stocks at present? And what will even some really big gains help if the they are tied up in a GRA put in Treasuries? I’m afraid this is another one of Nancy’s smirked “We’ll have to pass it so you can see what’s in it.” Just because I can’t think of any more horrors doesn’t mean they can’t. I gave you everything that is “known” and labeled my conjecture. This bunch has no problem legislating through regulation, too.

    Let me mull this one over and get back to you if inspiration strikes. Congratulations on being quoted in a “name” financial column you can’t expect me to cite here!

  • http://www.thetexasring.com Linda Brady Traynham

    Jeff…what a devious, horrible mind you have. That’s a lot of factors to mull over, and unless you object your post is going to be turned into an article because I don’t take credit for ideas I didn’t have. Particularly those I should have. If you want to write it yourself, go ahead, you’re doing fine! I’ll get it published. Excellent work.

  • Jeff Schwartz

    Linda – I’ll write a bit on it, and drop me a line as to where to send it. If you think it’s publishable, that’d tickle my funny bone. If not, then feel free to use the longer (more thought out) version as grist for your mill.

  • http://www.thetexasring.com Linda Brady Traynham

    Hi, Keith, welcome to the crew! Nice post, and I need anecdotes like yours. For many years friends and those I do business with have said, “I have the customers to expand, but between taxes, regulations, and rising costs it just isn’t worth my while. I’d work a lot harder and longer and not clear enough to matter.” They thought they had it bad in ’95?!

    Only 8% of those at the top of the heap of the Obama administration have ANY experience in business. They’re so full of grandiose schemes to redistribute income and achieve “social justice” (null content) that they have dug such a hole I’m not at all certain we can get out of it. Banks don’t dare lend because the “safest” thing is to settle for losing money slowly rather than risk more defaults. Businesses don’t dare expand between new laws, regulations, and taxes, and the politics of “the economic plan of the next five minutes.” I haven’t gotten around to writing about Obama’s wishy-washy “lifting” of the ban on deep-water drilling in the Gulf…after a great many rigs have pulled out for India and Africa and won’t be back.

    Thanks, and hope to hear from you again.

    Linda

  • http://www.thetexasring.com Linda Brady Traynham

    Congratulations to Jeff! I hope the rest of you will join in. He sent me an article I’ve already shopped re-print rights for, and the question is where it will go up and in how many pieces. I may slice, dice, and tranch it for here, because Jeff writes even longer articles than I do! Great job, and you’ll see it in one form or another.

  • http://myadventuresinselfreliance.blogspot.com/ Lynne

    this is Kelo writ large. Sorry all that savings you have done for your family. Well the government has plans…..
    There is no private property. If you deal in Green backs you are screwed.

    Honestly I’m waiting for the collapse. It will be ugly but it will be a shift in power.